Ringer (adopted)

[Emma]

I disagree with your terminology .........here is what some one posted to my question on another forum.....My question was what does it mean when you say you are starting a horse under saddle......here is one one of the answers.... I thought this was a really good explanation.

I'm with you. Flat classes are called "under saddle" because there's a rider on board

"Starting" and "starting under saddle" can be 2 different things, with the former sometimes mean a rider on board as well. But to me, the latter *always* means a rider is up.

Emma

[ladyleo]

I disagree with your terminology .........here is what some one posted to my question on another forum.....My question was what does it mean when you say you are starting a horse under saddle......here is one one of the answers.... I thought this was a really good explanation.

I'm with you. Flat classes are called "under saddle" because there's a rider on board

"Starting" and "starting under saddle" can be 2 different things, with the former sometimes mean a rider on board as well. But to me, the latter *always* means a rider is up.

Emma

Well it realy doesn't matter if you disagree with my terminology or not, lol its mine to use. lol

Anyways, in hunting for horses in the clinic today and yesterday, we commonly heard people say their horses have been started under saddle, but have not been backed yet.  So seems I'm not the only one. lol

Anyways its kind of funny you know,  "CAN" does not mean "does" and sometimes does not mean always,   and "but to me", means "YOUR OPINION". lol  sorry if the "can's and sometimes" means "always" to you. lol   I wasn't aware that you wrote the book on horse terminology.

What you are referring to is more like the terminology when one would say a horse goes well under saddle, meaning  the horse has good movement and balance and is well behaved when ridden.

Anyway, In MY world, lol Our horse lingo  started under saddle is saddle, bridled, long line and and then backed is putting a rider on. 

Seems you like to disagree with a lot of what I have to say. lol  So whats next? lol

[ladyleo]

Again Emma, Its all about safety,  You go assuming "started under saddle" means its also had a rider on, then you go and climb up onto that horse only to find out they literally only meant the horse had been saddled, you may just go and get yourself hurt.  I'm gonna assume it hasn't had a rider on yet, and avoid getting myself hurt.  Never make assumptions when dealing with horses in situations that could compromise your safety.

[In Alberta]

Good definition MM aka LL, (sorry, I just had to try out the new letters) LOL.
My description, starting under saddle, wearing saddle, ground work being done , etc. But with a rider on, I say, being ridden or rode. I never use the word backed, unless I am asking my horse to actually take a step back.

[missdit]

That's my BIGGEST pet peeve too!   I absolutely cannot stand that term with a passion...when people say  "he's been backed"   Ugh!!!   Why not just say he's had 3 rides,  or whatever...ick,  I know it's silly,  but every time I hear that word it just makes me cringe.

[Chrissy]

I say it   And when I do, I mean my horse has had someone on him, not ridden, just weight on his back.  As for rides, that's exactly it.  My 5 year old still has less than 40 rides

[In Alberta]

That's my BIGGEST pet peeve too!   I absolutely cannot stand that term with a passion...when people say  "he's been backed"   Ugh!!!   Why not just say he's had 3 rides,  or whatever...ick,  I know it's silly,  but every time I hear that word it just makes me cringe.

Actually, I think I read somewhere years ago that that term was used back in the 1800's when it started. I remember a girl on IH was saying she was backing her horse, but could not get the horse to walk out. I said to my self "Well, your asking your horse to back, so your probably giving mixed signals" LOL,

[ladyleo]

Well we finally started him, at our clinic, he did really well!  Can't believe how big he has grown since I last posted, and filled out.  With Kao aka antonio being his dad, and aparently not much bigger than he is now at the same age, there may be some hope for some nice height too.  He is at about 14.2 now! and Kao has to be well over 15hh

He even carried a rider for his first few steps in each direction after only 3 sessions!  Job well done Rob!  I think most viewers enjoyed watching a colt started that has had nothing done to it besides haltering. 

[In Alberta]

Way to go on all your successes with him. Look forward to hearing the updates.